00:00.00 archpodnet It did it again. Chris Ro Losts connection so sorry so this is the end of it that that the pawny nation today. The rira nation today which is part of mhj and the wichitan affiliated tribes. These contemporary nations are the product of. And much more diverse and complex history than many people realize like I hope this was to illustrate that like there's a lot going on in the planes. What leads up to the pawny nation today is coalescence of different groups from different backgrounds from different parts of the planes. Coming together sharing knowledge developing their own identity which then later comes the pawe nation right in the central plains and the name and our identity today is different because a lot of pawnees today are come from different tribes as well like they have parents from different tribes and some of their. Cultural knowledge is coming from these different groups right? So like even there's change today in terms of what we mean to be pawny like you guys see me and you guys if you've seen me in person you know I am fair skinned with blue eyes yet I am pawny right? like I have my c ib my certificate of indian blood. I engage with cultural practices and I've worked very closely with the tribe and that's the same for most indigenous people right? like try and I want to do this talk because I've I've been you know recently got back from a week -long trip to pawny. 01:24.35 archpodnet And more recently these past couple of years I have had way more people reach out to me about pawe history or wanted to know more about pawe history and it's like man there's you know it's not an easy answer There's no one straight line that I can direct someone in time like oh yes, this this this this. It's like. We need to talk about hunter-gatherers. We have to talk about the how does corn get up and like why do and this is another fascinating topic like why do a lot of cultures in North america have very similar corn ceremonies in corn beliefs and it's like well corn came from 1 place in Mexico. In order to get corn. You had to be taught how to grow it and those people told you their ceremonies behind corn and like that's kind of how that corn culture has grown because in order to get it. You had to be taught it and you were taught by someone who had a corn culture and that's kind of how we have these very similar. Backgrounds and beliefs around corn because like that's how it spread that's it's part of the corn package like the if you like your your old maize flakes box the ingredients on the side and how to make it. You know they're they're kind of the same ingredients list and like how you grow maize you know, right? so. I hope this has been um, a good lecture I know the last one was a lot more fire and brinstone I was like way more agitated about some things and this one I really just kind of want to talk about a subject that I find fascinating and then we can do more of these. So if you guys have any other topics that you'd like me to give. 02:51.17 archpodnet Ah, lecture about I'd be like more than happy to do that. So there's a number of references that I have used for this knowledge I'll put them in the show notes there is um, archeology of the great plains. Um I have my books right here. 03:10.25 archpodnet Archeology of the great plains. Um, 9098 most of the planes archeology stuff is dated except there's a fantastic new book. The archeology of the north american great plains by Douglas banforth my mentor and dissertation advisor who is fucking waiting. So. Long for me to finish the dissertation so he can publish some stuff. Um that came out in 2021 I believe or is it 2022 I'm sorry Doug if you're listening but I know Doug doesn't listen my podcast. You can't fucking stand me at this point. Um, anyways, this came out very recently and it's not like a traditional. Archeology book where it's like paleo indian period here's everything in the paleo indian um Dr Bamforth you know he aligns his book more is kind of like a story. Um, you know like peopleing in the continent mounds pots pipes and bison the plains woodland period. Settled farmers and their neighbors. This is like a much more holistic view of the great plains. What's going on between regions and how we can track changes in time and like a way more synthetic or synthesis of what's happening on the great plain. So highly recommend that book but also read it in conjunction with archeology of the great plains. Or you know Kansas archeology some of those more like specific archaeology books that go through the taxon of archaeological cultures so you can like look at Doug's book he'll give you the whole history of the plans and you can go to some of these older books. 04:33.92 archpodnet And kind of get a sense of where he's drawing this data from now. Of course it's been twenty over twenty years since 9098 when a lot of these other books were written so there has been changes. Um, and with that um, please be sure to rate and review the podcast. You know you can rate the podcast on Itunes um Spotify. Play stitcher and then you can leave comments for us on Itunes. So we love hearing from you guys. You can also email us at a life and ruins podcast at gmail.com anne and others have been emailing us. We absolutely love fan feedback. 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