00:00.00 kinkella Hello and welcome back to the pseudo archeology podcast episode 141 and we have been discussing the Yana Goony Submarine ruins but let's be honest, we haven't even really been discussing them. We have just been hearing me bitch and moan you know and let's you know what. Let's stop that and let's get some actual facts into here. Okay, so here's the deal with this place. So as I said previously. It's it's originally sort of quote unquote found in 1986 and what you know again, what do I mean by that it's ultimately um. Comes to light because marine geologist um Masaki Kimura kind of pushes this it's this this marine geology guy has just not let up on this story and isn't it interesting how there's always sort of a single person behind these you know there's going to be 1 single person whether we're looking at. The um, the crystal skull with if you remember back the the girl who quote unquote found it for her sixteenth birthday right? She pushed the story until her death at at well over a hundred you of course have Graham Hancock pushing multiple stories. But that's sort of his brand. Ah, but. 01:14.73 kinkella That's what you get you kind of get a solo artist pushing this story in the face of overwhelming odds and you see how people get attracted to it. It's like the underdog story you know overwhelming odds nobody believes them? Yeah I know nobody believes them because it's a it's a. Terrible story. But so this guy you know just gets behind it even though the japanese government is like no this is nothing even anyone with any good sense is like no this is nothing and again what is it so they're large geologic very blocky square. Beds that are located about eighty five feet deep now when I say located about eighty five feet deep that's where the main kind of quote unquote you could say structures or whatever even though of course they're not the main pyramid the main pyramid base friends is it about eighty five feet deep and. What's funny of course is these same formations are right above the ocean on the surface because it's a geological formation right? Ah, they don't I don't even know if they say like above above ground they're like oh that's the top of the pyramid peeking out I don't even know if they go that far. It's it's because it doesn't look nearly as good. Above water because the the stones have all naturally eroded of course were underwater. They're still they haven't eroded as much due to um, you know wind and waves and stuff so but ah underwater at like eighty five feet down there are these large very. 02:48.92 kinkella Angular like ninety degree angular block looking um sedimentary layers and what are these these are these are basically sandstone. Um and shale. But this is so sedimentary stone laid down. In the miocene. So you know the the mayocene is from god of off top. It's it's from about twenty five million years ago up until about five million years ago give or take the my point here is the the. Geological formations here are oh let's say about 20000000 years old right? give or take so what happened is these were laid down these are sedimentary stones. There are only 3 kinds of stone in the world. There's igneous which is volcanic and if we think back to the gang penun ah non pyramid. Right? The one in Indonesia the recent one that is just a natural hill that's igneous, right? That's from but that's new stone. It's volcanic then you have metamorphic stone which is where you you have a stone that is pushed over time. You know, underneath the earth and then the pressure of it kind of pushs and twists it into something new because the heat and pressure that's metamorphic stone and then finally have sedimentary which happens when basically erosion like a hillside erodes down and then it's laid there in beds and over time it just sort of. 04:21.80 kinkella Gets pushed and stuck together something like sandstone is a classic sedimentary stone right? You can you can picture it in your mind. How a larger stone would just erode out and then you just have all this sandy grit that that lays down in the bottom of like a valley or underneath the ocean right of the same thing is laid down over time and then is just pushed together through pressure and. But it's not really changed chemically too much so that's sedimentary so that's how these things were formed they're formed Twenty million years ago but since then the area has been uplifted like in in the last several million years right in the pleistocene. So what you have is layers of stone that were once way down deep which are now being pushed up. By the earth so that makes sense so geology can be fun and interesting I love geology because it's so coldly. Scientific. You know it just explains it. It's like there you go so actually in terms of diving to this I would I would do a dive on the yanagoni. Ah, monument you know Yanaguni submarine ruins any time because actually you get 2 for 2 the reason why there were divers there in the first place is because it's actually a well-known dive site for hammerhead sharks and so that could be really awesome and also it's eighty five feet deep more in that in a minute but. Doing a dive there so you could see hammerhead sharks which would be really awesome and also you can see these very blocky geologic formations and I know that sounds like it might be boring just looking at like geologic formations but it's not some of my favorite dives have actually they're really. 05:58.53 kinkella Made better by not just looking at the fish. But if you see really cool geologic formations like I've seen seen like stlaites and stalag mites underwater you know, um, the geologyy itself can just be have its own fascination. So these huge blocks and again these these these layers. Don't picture them small picture them big picture them like six feet tall and you know and then they cleave off and are sort of flat above so these kind of six feet or ten feet tall kind of huge steps and of course pseudo archaeologists call these steps of a pyramid or steps of a structure which of course they're not. They're just geological formations. Um, the ah in terms of the diving so me now I know I'm very impressive. Not only do I have a ph d in archeology. But oh my god I also have a dive master certification I'm sure I've bragged about that before. How could I not? Um, so I've I've done you know a lot of dives and and I and I know that world I will say this diving to eighty five feet I would call it a medium dive if that makes sense. It's not just hey we're chilling at our um resort. In Hawaii and we're go going to go see some fishies at thirty feet right it's more serious than that. But it's also not ah we're at like one hundred and fifty feet and we're breathing like mixed gas or something. It's not that either right? So but it's a again you could call it like a real dive and also I've heard that that that area is quite. 07:34.60 kinkella Full of currents which would make sense. You're on a small island. Yeah I think the southernmost point in Japan or or quite near it and you're near Taiwan and when you're at that sort of ah, kind of a promontory point on an island of course sometimes the currents can just sort of whip around it. So a dive like that can also be intrinsically a bit dangerous and it's not for the depth. It's for the it can be for the currents and I was wondering you know I listening to the Graham Hancock flint double debate. Graham Hancock was alluding to something he kept saying like I almost died I almost died sort of making it seem like he almost died for science. Ah, but ah. Whatever his his you know silly ideas were I understand that I'm guessing it was because he dove here because he talked about diving the yonagoney ruins over two hundred times so he dove a geological outcrop over two hundred times I mean good for him. He could dive it 300 times. It doesn't make it. It doesn't make it more than it is. It doesn't all of a sudden mean it's it's has any human aspect to it because it doesn't but with that said an eighty five foot dive ah deep dive if if you get caught up in a current or something. It can be really? ah. 08:57.13 kinkella It can be dangerous. It can be harrowing you know so I do feel for him. You know I mean we we joke and have a laugh at Graham Hancock's expense sure but I would never wish him any sort of you know pain or I feel for him as a fellow diver I'm like dude that's you know that can be really scary. So in terms of how long people will ask me like okay if you're working at eighty five feet um how long can you stay down. You know what's it like and I know this because I've actually worked at right around eighty five feet a lot of times and what that. 09:35.66 kinkella It it depends on what you're using in your tank to breathe if you're just using regular air and regular air has 21% oxygen it's actually 20.9. So if you cup your hand and you look down and that that invisible stuff that's in your hand. That's only 20.9% oxygen most of it is nitrogen and in diving that it's the nitrogen part that messes you up like in terms of ah how it reacts with your body. You can have nitrogen narcos anyway, that's the that's one of the big concerns in diving. 10:15.25 kinkella So if you're using regular air. You can only stay down at eighty five feet for like about 20 minutes 25 minutes or so which is not a whole hell of a lot of time if you're trying to do something scientific if you're trying to take measurements or that kind of thing. Um but eighty five feet is perfect for Nitros Nitros is 32 % oxygen so what they do in the tank is they add some extra pure oxygen to the regular air. You can also dive 36% oxygen it gets it gets technical but normally 32% if you dive nitrocs at eighty five feet you can stay down for like around 40 minutes or so maybe 45 so you see it almost doubles your dive time and nitros is perfect for that midrange dive now what's funny with diving if you then go too deep and you're on nightrocks you can kill yourself. That's what's. There's always a give and take in diving right? So where with regular air if you went down to one hundred and twenty feet it's actually no big deal. No big deal at all. But Nitros if you go to one hundred and twenty feet all of a sudden you can have you can have too much oxygen in the in the mix and and it can it can kill you. So you always have to know what's up but my point being for eighty five feet I'm guessing that Graham and others who dive there would would tend to angle towards nittrox because it's perfect for that. Also nitros. 11:40.77 kinkella It's just really great and if you have a mid-range dive like that it just makes you feel better. It's funny. It's like easier on the system. It's like easier on your body. You don't get a headache as my just just is my experience and I've I've heard a lot of people talk about this. It just makes your dive smoother. So um, yes I don't know when my review of the yanaguni submarine ruins turned into a commercial for nitros but but it did happen. So um, get your nitrocks today anyway. Um, why does this look like blocks. Sometimes you know I've been talking to you about how the. Yaag goni formation I guess we should really call that how the onnagooneni formation is is these layers right? and they kind of are let's say you know ten feet tall each time they sort of break at like you know at ten foot layers yeah this kind of thing they also it also breaks vertically. Every so often. So it has the in ah a feel of a block kind of thing that's because of course that area is also prone to a lot of earthquakes. So not only is the area being uplifted is also gets shaken around a little bit so that so these long beds will naturally break every so often. 12:57.42 kinkella So that's what gives you the overall look of like oh this looks like at at first glance and notice I say you know looks like that's what it'll be key in the next segment. Um, ah that our human brain looks at it and goes oh this looks like. Ah bricks huge bricks. You know that that that are part of some sort of huge pyramid and again it's a great story. Do I wish it was true. Yes, is it true now when we come back, let's wrap it up with the Yana Goni submarine ruins